tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4625171860671748699.post7914598467523257786..comments2024-01-30T18:06:40.312-08:00Comments on Up late talking games & writing? You're...: Fire Emblem: M/Str8 > F/LGBTBrad Gallawayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09452185302281177580noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4625171860671748699.post-33116067468613138542013-03-31T02:13:40.158-07:002013-03-31T02:13:40.158-07:00yeah, it's very true that the children of marr...yeah, it's very true that the children of married units become playable characters and that's totally fine. <br /><br />That said, accommodating other possibilities would have been pretty easy... non-straight couples could have led to no children, or their units could have been adopted. Or, units that were supposed to be children and then weren't could simply be acquired like any other unit. <br /><br />I get what you're saying here and I have no problem with it, but at the same time, it's still pretty exclusionary and just a few little tweaks would smooth it all out.<br /><br />thanks for your comment!Brad Gallawayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09452185302281177580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4625171860671748699.post-68147447001654826902013-03-26T07:19:00.702-07:002013-03-26T07:19:00.702-07:00I think the justification for having only hetero m...I think the justification for having only hetero marriage is that the married couple produces children- actual units you can use, which is a distinct feature of the game that I haven't seen mentioned in the original post or the discourse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4625171860671748699.post-65322203005699707612013-03-18T00:57:20.845-07:002013-03-18T00:57:20.845-07:00hey everybody, thanks very much for your comments ...hey everybody, thanks very much for your comments and for reading.<br /><br />Doug> Sorry, I should have clarified "societal within the game's own world". it was weird to see that there was really no ceremony or special occasion attached to the 'marriages', which is one reason why it struck me so odd that only hetero pairings could get an S. it was like the external world was imposing values within the game world where they didn't logically fit.<br /><br />Bryan - If you ever write that piece, LMK!<br /><br />Matt - I was actually wondering about that myself... I've got half a mind to try and track someone down to see what the real deal was.Brad Gallawayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09452185302281177580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4625171860671748699.post-30404707892467839382013-03-14T14:23:50.434-07:002013-03-14T14:23:50.434-07:00Hey Brad,
This game was localized by 8-4Play (who ...Hey Brad,<br />This game was localized by 8-4Play (who also localized MH3U and Metal Gear Revengence). They have a great podcast and seem like smart people. Be interesting to know how strictly they adhered to they Japanese script. Maybe they are to blame for the anti-women anti-LGBT undercurrent. Who knows. Matt Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16659659548476410949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4625171860671748699.post-74864696346766782372013-03-14T09:49:56.692-07:002013-03-14T09:49:56.692-07:00Although I fully agree with everything you've ...Although I fully agree with everything you've written here, Brad (and bravo to you for writing it!), I also agree with Doug, to a point. <br /><br />I think the most relevant fact here is that the game was made by a Japanese company and only localized for those of us in North America. As such, NOA basically had to work within the confines of what Intelligent Systems and Nintendo of Japan gave them. Sure, they could have handled the localization more elegantly (the quotes for the presumably gay couples are pretty cringe-wrothy, IMO), but I have a feeling they only could have allowed same-sex marriages if IS or NOJ had gone back into the game and made some changes themselves--which you know neither IS nor NOJ were willing to do.<br /><br />Sadly, this kind of thing has been par for the course for Nintendo for some time now. I've been thinking about it and have considered writing about it for some time now--about how Nintendo consistently shows LGBT gamers, and LGBT-supportive gamers, that it doesn't take them seriously or, worse, that it finds them strange, weird and even worthy of being mocked.<br /><br />Maybe I'll finally write that piece after I finish with Fire Emblem.<br /><br />Anyway, thanks for writing about this and for being so passionate about it. I appreciate it, and I'm sure other LGBT (and LGBT-friendly) gamers appreciate it, too :)Bryan Ochallahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16256591698209804728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4625171860671748699.post-80443995739738286842013-03-14T08:43:08.818-07:002013-03-14T08:43:08.818-07:00"It's not even as if the game tries to de..."It's not even as if the game tries to deal with the marriage issue on a societal level, it's simply something that happens between two characters in a private way, so what the game is saying, essentially, is that it does not see any male/male or female/female match-ups as important, potent, or as valid as the traditional hetero model."<br /><br />One thing to consider here, when you use the word "societal level" is that this game, unless I'm incorrect, is available globally. Your definition of "society" is not even representative of the entire state of WA, let alone all of the USA. And the USA is just one tiny society when compared to the world. For every person in the Seattle area, or even WA or USA as a whole, who feel that male/male and female/female marriages should be equally acknowledged in the game, there are countless others who feel that such a thing has no place in society... THEIR SOCIETY.<br /><br />These games we play are globally-consumed products. And not all manufacturers (i.e. developers) are going to be on the same page with people from all corners of the world when it comes to societal concerns.<br /><br />As for the dialogue though... I don't see any difference between the "I'm not one to judge" and "whatever floats your boat" comments. The "hotter than Elfire" one was lame and definitely more approving, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were dozens of these little pairing comments and that you may simply be reading too much into a writer's diminishing returns in creativity. Doug Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11601362819785178691noreply@blogger.com